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Snowmobile Testimonies
From
Regular People Using Blue
Marble Oil
As far as my results go, I wouldn't be buying more Blue Marble oil if I
wasn't pleased with the results. I've been using it for two years now. My
engine runs much smoother (01' XC 600) and never smokes unless it's during
the first start of the day. The belly pan near the exhaust outlet stays very
clean. I use to have to clean it every 500 miles with other oils (synthetic
Amsoil). Now I never have to clean it. Also my variable exhaust valves stay
carbon free for most of the year. I only pull them out occasionally to
inspect their condition. At first, I was a little concerned with the cold
pour point of the Blue Marble oil, but we just returned from a trip to
Canada and it was
-20°F
the night we pulled into Roberval,
Qc.
The next morning it was ever colder and I had absolutely no problems. As far
as performance goes, well, that's a tough call. I can't honestly give Blue
Marble oil all the credit. That wouldn't make sense to anybody that
understands snowmobiles and their performance. My sled was clutched by GSI
racing in NY. The clutch tuner did say however that my sled seemed to have
more power and was able to pull a little more helix angle than the other 01
600's that he's setup. He was surprised since my sled has
an
1 1/4" lug track. That may be the Blue Marble oil doing its work. My sled
consistently beats my friends clutched 02' MXZX 700 and even has equal top
end speed, even with speed robbing 1 1/4" track, not bad for a little 600. I
wish I could pin point my sleds performance solely to Blue Marble oil, but
that wouldn't be too fair to GSI racing, now would it. All I know is that
the sled is fast. As far as oil consumption goes, I'm not sure. I never
checked my oil consumption before I started using Blue Marble oil. So I have
no baseline to compare it to. Using Blue Marble oil I get about 125 miles to
a quart. That's about normal from what other XC's use. The only way I can
see your oil consumption decreasing is by turning your oil pump setting
down, and maybe you can safely do that with this oil but I wasn't going to
experiment with that. I believe the oil pumps on snowmobiles are positive
displacement pumps and always pump whatever they are set at. I don't see how
putting in a different oil will somehow decrease your consumption without
some other intervention. The bottom line is that this is
a good
oil and Blue Marble Oil does not make any claims that they can't back up.
Mike Zilm
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I have a 2002 Arctic Cat Thundercat, which is the largest, fastest stock
snowmobile ever sold to the public. 999 cc's, 172 hp, three cylinder beast!
Last winter my son and I were out riding, and I noticed my sled popping and
backfiring a little. Well, we rode about 150 miles that day, and by the time
we were done, the noises had grown from annoying to worrisome. When I
finally got a chance to look at my machine a couple of days later, I was
shocked to discover the carburetors were only being held on by one flange.
The other flanges had split in two. The motor had to be running extremely
lean, and it is a wonder it did not seize completely, or at least melt a
piston. The only reason I can think of is that I have been running Blue
Marble since mile
one,
and I believe your product saved my engine, as well as me a long walk!
Thanks for making such
a great
two stroke oil...it's all my pride and joy will ever see!
Rob Clark
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I have 2002 Polaris 800 XCSP that has 1200 miles on it's had Blue Marble in
it from day one. The engine runs like a car, very smooth, with no smoke and
very little vibration. The mileage started out at 14 mpg (Canadian) and has
been going up with almost every tank of fuel and it now stands at 20.6 mpg
(Canadian). This machine has a range of app 205 miles. About every 100 miles
I have to set the idle down as it will go up about 200 to 500 rpm's. I have
no idea when it will stop with the mileage improvement, but it is just
GREAT.
Mel Shannon
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After reading testimonials and magazine articles on Blue Marble and its
advantages in 2 cycle engines, I decided to switch to it with my
2001
Polaris 600 Classic. I managed to put 2883 miles on last year with
a conventional
semi-synthetic oil. The sled seemed to run fine, using about one quart of
oil to 125 to 130 miles, which is considered pretty good. Top end on a wide
open groomed trail was 85 MPH at 8100 RPM, about normal for a Classic with
the M-10 suspension. Before the season, I siphoned the existing oil out of
the tank and filled it with one gallon of Blue Marble. To bleed the oil
lines of the old oil, I
idled
the engine at 2500 RPM until the heat exchangers were hot and then shut it
off to cool overnight. After doing this twice, I noticed the engine was
running smoother and could be idled smoothly down to 1000 RPM, however I
settled for a
1200
RPM idle, which works best when shifting to reverse. After putting 330 miles
on this year I am simply amazed at the changes I have witnessed. Top RPM is
now 8300 RPM at full throttle when cutting through deep powder. On an icy
plowed road I was able to reach 95 MPH at 8000 RPM before rapidly catching
up to the guy in front of me and slowing down. The biggest change however is
in oil consumption. Without adjusting the oil pump, I only used 1 1/4 quarts
of oil for 330 miles. THAT'S 264 MILES PER QUART! How can that be? How could
I get a 100% decrease in oil consumption with increases in performance and
not cook the engine? It simply runs great and smoother than ever.
J. Hornblad
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This oil does do everything it was supposed to. The biggest difference
to me was my consumption went down and the smoke was dramatically reduced. I
was in northern Canada last
week one morning and it was -25 F, I was still using the recommended oil by
Polaris in my wife's sled and I wanted to use it up and also wanted to be
certain about the Blue Marble. I was very impressed with the way
2 oil's
poured, the recommended Polaris oil was significantly slower pouring then
the Blue Marble it poured nearly the same as it did at 40 degrees
F.
Tim Morse
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Finally got a chance to put some miles on my ZR8 with Blue Marble.
My neighbor has the same sled and running Amsoil 2000. Everything on both
sleds 41 Os with oil pump turned back just slightly as per our dealer.
Secondary in second hole.
Running premium gas.
We did a 170 mile ride from Petewawa to south of Matawa and back. My sled
used $31.50 and the other used 34.50. Both sleds are now just on the fifth
tank of gas and 5-600 miles. An SRX was with us and he used 35.00 and an
SXR700 used 33.00. At start up there used to be some smoke but now it is
just a white plume with very little smell and none once running. Another
nice benefit is the lack of soot on the belly pan. Mine is noticeably
cleaner than the one using Amsoil. Oil consumption was about 1/2 a quart
less for this distance. Running was fast as we rode the pipeline, which is
very wide and well groomed. It lives up to the claims of being cleaner and
the last thing we did is line them up on a long logging road north of the
army base. My sled was consistently quicker (3 lengths) to about quarter it
seemed to run smoother at that speed. SRX was about 5 lengths back. It is
hard to say if this is because of the Blue Marble but it does perform
better.
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I recently purchased a Polaris XC SP 800 and decided to use Blue Marble Oil
for the sled. When first brought it home I had never seen a sled shake so
much in my life! I know it was new and had to break it in but it was pretty
bad. After doing the recommended break in period with the oil the sled is as
quiet as can be. No more rattle form the m-10 over load spring and the
engine does not shake like it did. I have about 200 miles on the sled and it
runs awesome. It is too early to tell if I have gained any power or mileage,
but I will say that it runs very clean almost too clean as it is hard
to tell piston wash and plug color. The top of the piston is golden brown
and the oil hardly
leaves
any deposit on the plug tip. Once the sled is warm, there is no smoke at all
to speak of. I bought to see if the rumors of how clean it was
true,
and it seems to be. This alone will enhance our sport and perhaps save the
two-stroke design from political extinction. If it is good for the
environment then it will be good for us. I will have a chance to ride with a
few friends later this month with the same setup and then I can get a good
comparison. I have also put it in my 700 and this is where I can tell you
that it made a big difference. I was jetted somewhat rich and the top of the
piston was pitch black with small deposits on the exhaust ports. I can tell
you that it now has no more deposits on the ports and the piston is nearly
cleaned off with a light brown color on top. It pulls harder earlier and is
about 10 - 15% better on fuel compared to a trip I did last year of the same
distance. I am just happy with the cleanliness of the oil, which lives up to
the claims. I was warned that the increases would only happen after 3-5
tanks of fuel. I only have about 2 tanks at this point and I am impressed
with the smokeless and cleanliness of the oil.
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I have used Blue Marble in a 02' 800 Mountain Cat EFI with real good
results. My mileage has improved and oil consumption has decreased. I used
it for
about a
150 miles before I really started to notice results. I started to foul spark
plugs and had to turn the oil pump down to compensate. The only thing bad
about this oil is that it burns so clean it becomes harder to read piston
wash. I also haven't had any problem with sticking valves. I wasn't sure
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On my 96 Formula III 600, my gas mileage increased by about 60%. I went
from 10mpg to 15 mpg after only 2 tankfuls of gas. The combustion is also
MUCH cleaner. Because of the triple pipes and big carbs, this machine was
hard on plugs, unless I ran flat out a lot. The plugs used to always be wet.
Not anymore, they are always dry now and burning perfect. I can't complain.
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I have used Blue Marble in my
KX-125
motocross bike and found significant gains in power. The type of increase
that usually costs hundreds of dollars to achieve. I also have an 800 XCSP
and have found the same results with the idle. The Blue Marble oil was run
in my
KX-125
with power valves and they never looked cleaner and I used Motul in it
before. As a matter of fact using Blue Marble actually helped clean the
carbon that was on them.
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Wow! After reading about your new oil, I decided to see what it was all
about. Now on my 2002 800 XCSP, it's become a new beast to beat. The first
thing that I noticed when using your oil was the no smoke, no odor to it and
I started to see gains in my fuel economy. I really didn't notice a
performance gain until I reached 400 miles and then at 500 miles, WHOA! What
a difference! My fuel economy has gone from around 10 mpg to 16 mpg. I've
got this documented as well. Thanks for a great product that truly lives up
to its claims!!!
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I have used Blue Marble for the past two years in my 01' T -Cat. Yes it
is
a great
oil but most of all it really makes my first pull on my sled very easy just
like a 500. Before Blue Marble I needed time at the gym so that I could
start my T -Cat. After my first tank of gas and Blue Marble oil, starting
the sled was a breeze.
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I have used about 1.5 gallons through my sled and I have experienced better
gas mileage, way less exhaust smoke, and a much cleaner crisper running
sled. I have a 1999 PS 700 so I don't have any exhaust valves though. I will
be running it in my RM 250 this summer for sure. I am sold on it. I have
poured it in below zero weather as well. It seems much less viscous than
regular AC oil. I would recommend it, especially for a regular carbed
non-exhaust valve motor.
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I have about 200 miles on the sled and it runs awesome. It's too early to
tell if I have gained any power or mileage, but I will say that it runs very
clean, almost too clean as it is hard to tell piston wash and plug color.
The top of the piston is golden brown and the oil hardly leaves any deposits
on the plug tip. Once the sled is warm, there is no smoke at all to speak
of. I bought it to see if the rumors of how clean it was
true,
and it seems to be. This alone will enhance our sport and perhaps
save
the two-stroke design from political extinction. If it is good for the
environment then it will be good for us. I will have a chance to ride with a
few friends later this month with the same setup and then I can get a good
comparison. I have also put it in my 700 and this is where I can tell you
that it made a big difference. I was jetted some what rich and the top of
the piston was pitch black with small deposits on the exhaust ports. I can
tell you that it now has no more deposits on the ports and the piston is
nearly cleaned off with a light brown color on top. It pulls harder earlier
and is about 10 - 15% better on fuel compared to a trip I did last year of
the same distance. I am just happy with the cleanliness of the oil which
lives up to the claims. I was warned that the increases would only happen
after 3-5 tanks of fuel. I only have about 2 tanks at this point and I am
impressed with the smokeless and cleanliness of the oil. I'll let you know
about the gas mileage in February after a few good runs.
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I used it to break in my 900 Ultra this season and have had real good
results so far. It really does burn clean with noticeably less odor. The
wash is very different than the Polaris Gold synthetic that I used to use.
If you buy a four gallon case at a time, it's not really that much more
expensive. I also had no trouble pouring it in sub-zero weather last week in
Island Park. It was a little thick but that’s it. Since I changed oils at
the same time I went from 680cc to 900cc, so I can't make any claims around
fuel mileage improvement. The 900 is getting between 5 and 7 mpg depending
on the conditions rye ridden in this year which ain't bad for a mod motor.
I'll keep using it.
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I give your product the big thumbs up. I'm not a person that just jumps
into endorsing anything without trying it out
myself.
I want to say that out of all the things I have tried, things for cars, my
home, sporting equipment, health, etc. this is the only product that has
lived up to it's potential as advertised, you have a product to be extremely
proud of, and confident in. I'm not to my goal I had on miles yet with your
oil, but with one more outing I will be. Everything just keeps improving,
the engine I would guess idles 50% smoother, gas mileage, power, throttle
response,
all
of those just keep increasing. Yesterday in southern Iowa I was riding with
my brother and some people he knows. Those guys started drag racing while we
were all taking a
break,
I sat and watched until they wanted me to run them also. All I have in my
sled right now is a clutch kit, and your oil, everything else (the various
mods) I took off for now to get a better feel for your oil improvements on
their own. I raced a 2000 800 xcr with a clutch kit and reeds, a 2000 800
mach Z with a clutch kit, a 2002 800 mxz with a clutch kit, and also one
that was stock, I also raced a new 2003 4 stroke Yamaha that was stock. I
raced all of them eight times, all lined up in a row for 2.7 tenths of a
mile distance. Remember I have a 2002 zr 800, I won all eight times, they
said the closest anybody got to me was three sled lengths. That was the 800
xcr Polaris with the reeds and clutch kit, that sled is a triple, mine is a
twin, he has at least twenty horse
power
over me, and I blew him away. The throttle response and power give me a hole
shot that is unreal, I didn't tell them what I'm doing, but I did say it is
something you all can do with no added expense. I told them I'll let my
brother know and they can call me when I'm done testing what I'm trying. One
more run and I'm going to show a couple of people my plugs and see if they
will give you a call, the way it's looking so far, I just wish there was a
way I could sell this oil myself. I'm going to work on getting you some
numbers, and addresses, I wanted to talk to one of my friends either tonight
or tomorrow. He owns a business working on snowmobiles and watercraft. He
seems to sell allot of lubrication products, and is trusted around these
parts as somebody who knows what he is doing. The dealers I'm getting you
numbers for is the largest Polaris dealer in the state I believe, out of the
other two, one sells Arctic cat, Yamaha, the other sells Skidoo.
Thanks Hans
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Let me start off by saying that I have tried your product (Blue Marble) in
my snowmobiles last weekend. The results were amazing with just about a tank
and a half I noticed significant reduction in smoke, an increase in gas
mileage, and slight reduction in oil usage. On a 2000
xc
600 Polaris for an 86 mile trip using Amsoil we used 33 liters of gas, with
blue marble the use was 22 liters.
On a 1998
600 xlt Polaris the 86 mile trip with Amsoil consumed 30 liters of gas and
with blue marble it used 23litres. I live in St. Catharines Ontario, Canada,
near Niagara Falls, New York, the problem is, there no dealers for your
product close to my area (Toronto).
l
had to order the oil from Ottawa and paid a shipping charge, Ottawa is a 6
hours drive from this area.
Don Heaton
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Years ago multiple sled length
hole
shots could be achieved after an afternoon of clutching. However, the
increased competitiveness of the snow cross racing has driven the
manufacturers to perfect the clutching and gearing of their machines. We at
Zarimba Racing have used the stock clutching and gearing, as has every other
Polaris driver for the past two years. Still, our snowmobiles seem to run
stronger and faster than others with the same clutching, gearing, and
jetting. The difference is, Blue Marble Oil, other racers use their
manufacturer's oil products. Our choice to use your oil has proven to put
Zarimba Racing snowmobiles at the front of the pack.
Thank-you for supporting us with such an exceptional product.
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I've had nothing but good results with Blue Marble. I ran it from brand
new in my 800 ZR and the stuff flat out worked better. At idle there was
nothing but a white heat plume once warmed up. No
deposits at all in the ports and the piston was
very clean. Light brown covering the top but could see number marks clearly
on the top of the piston. Telling piston wash was difficult as it left very
little if any wash even when rich. Plugs were always clean.
I
jetted down to 41 O's from 430's right out of the box to avoid sticky valves
due to them being too rich. I did not touch the oil pump. My neighbor has
the identical machine. At the beginning of the year we would run side by
side right to top end. After about 400 miles my sled woke up and was pulling
him every time by a sled and a
half.
I would get 2-3 miles per gallon better mileage with identical setups. My
oil consumption was always less as well. I also used it in my Mercury
powered jet boat all summer and it really cleaned up my gas and oil
consumption by at least 15% perhaps more. I believe and bought 2 more cases
just to hold me until they are back up and running. I have cut my oil pumps
back now on both my sled and boat and lubrication is still excellent. I am
most impressed with the cleanliness on the side of my green 800 versus my
neighbors. He is using Amsoil 2000, which is very good for cleanliness in
the cylinders as well, but leaves a lot more black soot around the exhaust
outlet. At the end of last year a guy at our local shop tried it out and ran
it in his mod sled. He picked up 5 horses on the dyno after running for 1
hour. His engine now dropped 125 degrees at peak. This allowed him to drop
the main jets two sizes and pick up another 3 horses getting back to optimum
temperature.
Jester
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AlI I can tell you is after 500 miles on the stuff there was a big
difference in how my sled ran and used half the oil as by buddy with the
same sled.
SnoPro
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ran it in mYMC800 last year and loved it.
l
ran
it very hard in temperatures at -20 F., wide open for WAY too long no
problems. Doesn't smoke like the
rest.
I've got two cases of it, but they are not for sale.
Mountain Muncher
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I ran it all last year in temps down to -30 Celsius and it poured just fine.
It is
a very
thin oil. You can usually turn the oil back after a proper 250-300 miles of
using it. I would even run a couple of mixed tanks to help it clean out the
deposits of the walls of the cylinder and piston. Once it is run past the
third tank turn back the oil and check color of your plugs. If they are
dark, drop a jet size. Be sure to check piston wash. Once it is set right
you will see a light tan color on the piston top and no smoke once warm,
even at idle. Gas consumption will decrease as will the oil consumption. A
good ratio for me is about 70 to 1. You will likely notice the engine sounds
slightly different in the pipe and crisper in the midrange. If you follow
this setup you will not be sorry. As to the reason for why you re-jet, due
to less friction in the cylinder and lower combustion values a drop in
temperature results. Leaner jetting will increase the heat in the cylinder
back to acceptable temperatures. Many shops have seen this during dyno
testing. This is the best explanation that I can give of how it works. It
essentially gives you a safer buffer against heat, which is the problem for
any engine. The ingredients in the oil combine with the cylinder and piston
surfaces. It is heat reflective and has very low friction
values,
this is what accounts for the heat dropping. During tests at University of
Waterloo they were able to drop several sizes in the jets safely which
helped them win the best fuel consumption levels at the Clean Snowmobile
Challenge. The secondary issue of cleanliness lies in the reflective
technology sending heat back to the center of the cylinder
which
results in a cleaner burn and less emissions. I am glad to see that they are
back up and running. I bought two cases just recently, so I would have
enough for my toys this winter and next summer.
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